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Post by Kenty in Weardale on Apr 3, 2020 23:07:33 GMT
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Post by Keithsson on Apr 7, 2020 10:11:24 GMT
Some alternative views to the position WFC and the 150 others have taken. They just go to show the near impossibility of forming a consensus with minority numbers. From the Herald site... Hillians Chairman - LinkHornets Manager - Link
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Post by Kenty in Weardale on Apr 7, 2020 12:36:32 GMT
The FA Council meting that had been rescheduled to today to make a decision has been postponed once again
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Post by wwrebel on Apr 7, 2020 12:40:59 GMT
Seasons over in my opinion.
Resuming months down the line with sides having differnet squads and any momentum gained previously being lost would be difficult for everyone.
Plus I would think you would need at least a month of training and a few friendlies to get players back up to speed.
Hopefully when next season begins, whenever that will be, we will still have the majority of our squad and with decent crowds we will have an advantage over others in the division regarding finances.
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Post by Kenty in Weardale on Apr 7, 2020 14:08:15 GMT
Personally, I feel that the decision should be deferred for at least 1 month as I suspect that a new season start in August just isn't going to happen.
Any reduction in the lockdown is going to be very much safety driven, with organised, much less spectated sports, very far down the line after other less attended activities e.g manufacturing, travel within a certain distance, shopping for non essentials, to restart the economy have taken place, and not caused another epidemic.
I can seriously foresee Pro and Semi Pro footy not resuming till December and then a solution would be just to carry on with the current campaigns matches with maybe some bonus cup type fixtures. I really hope I am wrong but I fear the worst.
Yours in boredom
Kenty
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Post by Keithsson on Apr 7, 2020 15:57:35 GMT
Seasons over in my opinion. Resuming months down the line with sides having differnet squads and any momentum gained previously being lost would be difficult for everyone. Plus I would think you would need at least a month of training and a few friendlies to get players back up to speed. Hopefully when next season begins, whenever that will be, we will still have the majority of our squad and with decent crowds we will have an advantage over others in the division regarding finances. I don't see us as having any advantage financially. We are not a bankrolled club (and neither should we be). The entirety of the football clubs income is through gate receipts, sponsorship, merchandise and match catering. None of those income streams have so much as a trickle running through them right now, and won't until games commence again. George, whose income is the ancilliary stadium income (bar and private/corporate pitch/clubhouse hire etc.) isn't getting anything through the coffers either... so can't bankroll anything in the interim. Again, neither should he. It is why it is more than a tad disappointing the sum raised on the fan led support fund is so low. Right now it is the ONLY revenue stream our club has. Players staying with us relies purely on loyalty, there is no financial pull we can muster that'll trump any offer they get elsewhere. It is clearly a happy camp and fingers crossed no-one will want to walk away and miss the opportunity to prove themselves all over again. But hope is all we have, we aren't nearly as financially advantaged as many believe we are. Adam has commented on this many times, other clubs think we are a rich club, we're not.
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Post by wwrebel on Apr 7, 2020 18:12:14 GMT
I know we are not a bankrolled club.
What I meant by saying we have a financial advantage over others in our division is that as we attract bigger gates than anyone else our finances will improve a lot quicker than the sides that pull 200ish spectators through the turnstiles.
Obviously the longer this shutdown goes on the more the likelihood that clubs fold. Greg Clarke of the FA has stated that the entire football pyramid will suffer not just from the virus but also the economic downturn that will follow.
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Post by wwrebel on Apr 8, 2020 12:12:45 GMT
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Post by Keithsson on Apr 8, 2020 13:12:29 GMT
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Post by wwrebel on Apr 9, 2020 17:00:40 GMT
Null and void confirmed.
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Post by Kenty in Weardale on Apr 9, 2020 20:41:13 GMT
The right decision but this could have been done the right way i.e by a vote of all clubs 2 weeks ago and thus avoided so much angst.
As I have said before, and was echoed by one of our Bog Brethren, I am not convinced that promotion was the great outcome that many foresaw but that won't stop me wishing for us to blitz the league next year.
We go again and will hold this seasons team and management very close to our hearts
As ever, stay safe
Kenty
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Post by wwrebel on Apr 9, 2020 21:45:46 GMT
I agree Kenty.
I also hope that there will be something written into the rules about what will happen if future seasons are interrupted or cancelled owing to pandemics. If, as some predict owing to a 2nd or even 3rd wave of this virus, next season could possibly be affected it would be prudent to have something in the league guidelines to confirm what will happen to league placings, promotions etc. I don't really fancy watching 'x' amount of what amounts to competitive friendlies again!
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Post by Keithsson on Apr 10, 2020 12:33:52 GMT
Maybe starting next season early?
Subject to the virus diminishing of course if we started a month early, maybe even factoring in a mid (or two thirds) season break, there would be slack in the fixture list to absorb a potentially shorter reinstated lockdown next spring.
That would also get cashflow through the turnstiles earlier to help struggling clubs.
Another thing to consider is the fixture scheduling. There has been talk of future regional lockdowns should the virus flare up in some places but not others. This would be after the main lockdown measures are eased if local spikes emerge.
If that did become the plan going forwards then it would also make sense to front load the longer trips for clubs. Save the more local games for the late winter/early spring period when travel across longer distances (ie into other regions) could be more difficult as localised lockdowns come in.
Plenty for the authorities to consider. But as we've found with this decision consultations and forward planning aren't really their forte.
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Post by wwrebel on Apr 13, 2020 21:51:20 GMT
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Post by wwrebel on Apr 14, 2020 13:40:45 GMT
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