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Post by Keithsson on Mar 3, 2020 13:35:42 GMT
I'd remove crawley and bha from the senior cup. There is no need for an u23 side to be playing 7th division sides especially now the u23 sides play football league sides in the leading.com. For Crawley playing at the amex is not a big day out given how long they have been in the football league now and the grounds that they have been to. The senior cup is a big competition for us non league teams as is imo devalued by having football league and u23s in it. I'd have much rather be playing bognor today with our proper goalkeeper in a derby than Brighton's youth team. It is like worthing putting our youth team into the county league cup. Yep, I have say I agree, Bognor, indeed anyone in fact would be better. I am not sufficiently motivated to do the research but I doubt many teams in the top league participate in their county competition bar a hugely token representative side if they really have to. The 'B team precursor' competition the top teams participate in now makes this competition about 5th fiddle to them. It does though beg the question why BHA could even begin to feel sufficiently threatened to pull our star player from us. It's like Anthony Joshua coming up against Timmy Mallet and insisting he has one arm tied behind his back, absolutely nucking futs. They won't be removed from the competition going forwards though because BHA put bums on seats and the County FA won't waive their cut for an honourable principle like achieving a more level playing field. A fairer competition is of no interest to them, it's all about the money. As Heljag says though, it is what it is. If Carl doesn't play It'll be a shameful hollow victory for them.... ...but as Kevin Keegan once ranted "I'd love it, I'd just love it if we beat them"
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Post by westsussexisred on Mar 3, 2020 15:18:16 GMT
I'd remove crawley and bha from the senior cup. There is no need for an u23 side to be playing 7th division sides especially now the u23 sides play football league sides in the leading.com. For Crawley playing at the amex is not a big day out given how long they have been in the football league now and the grounds that they have been to. The senior cup is a big competition for us non league teams as is imo devalued by having football league and u23s in it. I'd have much rather be playing bognor today with our proper goalkeeper in a derby than Brighton's youth team. It is like worthing putting our youth team into the county league cup. Yep, I have say I agree, Bognor, indeed anyone in fact would be better. I am not sufficiently motivated to do the research but I doubt many teams in the top league participate in their county competition bar a hugely token representative side if they really have to. The 'B team precursor' competition the top teams participate in now makes this competition about 5th fiddle to them. It does though beg the question why BHA could even begin to feel sufficiently threatened to pull our star player from us. It's like Anthony Joshua coming up against Timmy Mallet and insisting he has one arm tied behind his back, absolutely nucking futs. They won't be removed from the competition going forwards though because BHA put bums on seats and the County FA won't waive their cut for an honourable principle like achieving a more level playing field. A fairer competition is of no interest to them, it's all about the money. As Heljag says though, it is what it is. If Carl doesn't play It'll be a shameful hollow victory for them.... ...but as Kevin Keegan once ranted "I'd love it, I'd just love it if we beat them" Yep spot on. The SCFA won't remove them because it they did we wouldn't be playing the final at the AMEX and it isn't Brighton's responsibility to make a fairer competition. The young seagulls have won 7 out of the last 13 senior cups. I am not sure what they gain out of dominating the non league sides in the area, surely beating Bognor, Hastings and Burgess Hill will not adequately prepare their youth for life in the premier league. From what i can see, i can't find another example of a premier league side having this amount of dominance over a county competition in recent history. We've allowed jelley chalaye and clarke to play in the cup for Pagham. If we had then stopped them playing vs us i would be equally disappointed. In fact, in this 13 year period of albion dominance, Eastbourne vs Worthing in 2016, is the second highest attendance out of any final with 2899 fans around 1800 worthing if i remember correctly. The highest, the 2010/11 final between Brighton's kids and Eastbourne with 7104 fans, i assume because it was one of if not the first games at the AMEX? In fact 2 of the top 3 attendances are games that didn't involved Brighton. This says something about how much their fans care about their youth team and how much they value getting to the senior cup final. The final would have a far bigger crowd in worthing win tonight (something for the SCFA to think about). Another concern that I have is Culver Roads ability to host the game. I'd expect their to be around 1000 fans tonight and I don't know the capacity of the ground but it'll be very full especially behind the goal. I know it is the County HQ and that is why they are hosting the game at the ground, but their are many grounds in Sussex more suited to holding a crowd of this size. Their bar area is tiny and the food outlets will be far more busy than they are used to. I hope that their are provisions in place for the game given the size of the crowd that it will attract. It also says on the SCFA website that the other semi-final was played at Eastbourne's ground, i wonder why tonight's game isnt being played at woodside road. Rant over, needed to be done before the game or else you get our green friends across West Sussex saying that I'm just bitter at the result
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Post by jules on Mar 3, 2020 16:32:51 GMT
Brighton used to put out strong teams in the past in this competition, mainly reserves but quite a few first team regulars, mind you they were usually division 2 or 3 back then. Some of their goals are listed as being scored by the likes of Peter Ward, Gary Stevens, Gordon Smith and Andy Ritchie!! How times change.
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Post by Keithsson on Mar 3, 2020 18:33:31 GMT
Jack Fagan it is then.
Well done BHA, another nail in the coffin of the sporting spirit of football.
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Post by Keithsson on Mar 3, 2020 20:03:40 GMT
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Post by jules on Mar 3, 2020 23:32:43 GMT
Well we certainly gave it a good go, and with a little luck, could have got to pens even down to 10 men again. A great effort despite the refs best efforts to ensure Brighton progressed. Starkey showed why he is missed lately, Racine was a giant at the back, and what about Fagan, top man. We should be proud of our team tonight, were always in the match even with 10.
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Post by markg on Mar 4, 2020 7:29:15 GMT
Enjoyed that despite the result. Gave a good account of ourselves and great preparation for the league campaign. Amazing to see Jack back in goal - a true Worthing legend. Can’t help thinking it would be nice to invest in one of the Academy goalies and give them a shout rather than rely on our goalie from 3 seasons ago. Anyway, much respect to Jack for turning out. Pulled off some cracking saves and looked like he had never been away! Let’s focus on the league now.
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Post by Keithsson on Mar 4, 2020 7:34:57 GMT
Onwards with honour, which is more than can be said for Albion.
Wasn't much between the sides which given the disparity of resources and facilities is hugely to our credit. One jammy deflection was all that separated us and a team that has beaten League 1 opposition twice this season.
That there wasn't much more than a Rizla paper between us just serves to underline that Brighton hamstringing us by removing our best player from the contest was worth doing. The 'professional' thing to do is rarely the honourable thing to do though so I metaphorically waft a casual 'Nescafe handshake' in their general direction and wish Eastbourne Borough all the very best for the final.
Would Carl have saved any of those three? That's debatable, the first possible not, the second and third I didn't have a great angle for. But given that gravity defying save he made at home a couple of weeks ago who knows, he can save anything.
I am guessing Alfie's red may be competition specific but I'll double check the FA suspension site nearer to the weekend. If it's not it won't be active for Wingate anyway under the seven day thingy.
If any of the squad read this though, don't be disheartened, you did us proud. We'd rather be Rebels than Seagulls.
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Post by ian on Mar 4, 2020 8:51:11 GMT
Jack Fagan it is then. Well done BHA, another nail in the coffin of the sporting spirit of football. It’s a COMPETITION RULE not an Albion decision. We knew this when we loaned two BHA keepers. And you can’t arbitrarily ban two clubs from a county competition because they are too good!
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Post by Roger on Mar 4, 2020 10:46:09 GMT
Jack Fagan it is then. Well done BHA, another nail in the coffin of the sporting spirit of football. It’s a COMPETITION RULE not an Albion decision. We knew this when we loaned two BHA keepers. And you can’t arbitrarily ban two clubs from a county competition because they are too good! And don't League Clubs have to enter their County Cup for admission to the FA Cup
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Post by wwrebel on Mar 4, 2020 12:45:29 GMT
youtu.be/Sr4JviOaZjkHighlights. Alfies suspension is only for Senior Cup games going by the news that a Bognor player has been banned for the next 4 Senior Cup games after his sending off v Brighton in the previous round. Also the reason Jesse was available last night.
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Post by Keithsson on Mar 4, 2020 15:07:25 GMT
Jack Fagan it is then. Well done BHA, another nail in the coffin of the sporting spirit of football. It’s a COMPETITION RULE not an Albion decision. We knew this when we loaned two BHA keepers. And you can’t arbitrarily ban two clubs from a county competition because they are too good! On the last part, I didn't call for a ban and actually I don't think Albion U23's are actually that good having seen them. On the first part... you are now 'shouting' that as a fact. The first time you mentioned it on the Potters Bar thread you said, and I quote, "I think it is a competition rule...". Are you now upgrading a 'belief' to a stone cold 'fact'? Because if so I made it quite clear I would withdraw the insinuation of dishonourable and underhand tactics if someone could present evidence to back up your (at that point) stated 'opinion'. No such evidence was forthcoming even despite one of our number researching the competition rules and despite there being ample opportunity for Albion, WFC and/or the media to clarify players eligibility. They did so for Jessie and Dayshonne but failed to mention the one key player to our system and the most newsworthy player in both squads. There was deafening silence. I remain ready to withdraw my opinion on BHA's actions last night if clarity is forthcoming, without it I am not. I don't think that is unreasonable. So which is it on your part, your initially expressed opinion or is it now as you present it, a fact?
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Post by Keithsson on Mar 4, 2020 15:10:53 GMT
youtu.be/Sr4JviOaZjkHighlights. Alfies suspension is only for Senior Cup games going by the news that a Bognor player has been banned for the next 4 Senior Cup games after his sending off v Brighton in the previous round. Also the reason Jesse was available last night. Thanks mate, that makes complete sense.
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Post by wwrebel on Mar 4, 2020 15:44:54 GMT
youtu.be/Sr4JviOaZjkHighlights. Alfies suspension is only for Senior Cup games going by the news that a Bognor player has been banned for the next 4 Senior Cup games after his sending off v Brighton in the previous round. Also the reason Jesse was available last night. Thanks mate, that makes complete sense. That's OK, seems strange that an FA competition has its own set of suspension rules. A 3 game ban could last for 3 seasons if the side you're playing for get knocked out in the first round every season!!
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Post by Keithsson on Mar 4, 2020 15:47:00 GMT
The managers thoughts post match from the club site - Link
(Edit to respond to the above)... WW... I find virtually all the off field suspension, transfer and eligibility rules as you say 'strange'. They can be weird and often not so wonderful.
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